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Re: Rear shocks on a 1979 R100 RT

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 1:55 pm
by Major Softie
khittner1 wrote:Interesting point about the shock travel comparison. I don't remember enough of my geometry and/or trigonometry to compute this myself, but there's at least a little bit involved in converting the shock's compressibility to a "suspension travel" figure at the axle. My Haynes manual agrees with Garnet that the /7 bikes had rear suspension travel of 4.92 inches/125mm, unless they had Nivomats, in which case it had a suspension travel of 3.37 inches/85mm. Ikon's chart does show the "Travel inches to bump stop" of their 7610-1298 shock absorber to be 2.95 inches/75mm. I'll leave it to more recently-practiced geometricians to determine what the "suspension travel" at the wheel axle would be with an Ikon shock that can compress only that much. Given the similarity in appearances of the progressive spring windings of the OE Boge shocks and present-day Ikons, it doesn't seem intuitive to me how the OE non-Nivomat Boge shocks would have had so much more travel before their springs and shock bodies would be fully compressed.
My thoughts as well. 5" of rear shock travel would mean about 8" of rear wheel travel. Your rear suspension bottoming would result in the rear tire trying to make it's way through the rear fender.

I think I know where this misunderstanding comes from. Phil Hawksley lists the specs for the R100 this way:

Spring Travel Front/Rear
200 / 125 mm (7.87 x 4.92 in)


If one did not know better, this could leave one thinking that the spring, or shock absorber assembly, travels 4.92", when it is clearly speaking of what we 'Mericans refer to as "rear wheel travel."

Silly English.

Re: Rear shocks on a 1979 R100 RT

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 2:29 pm
by Mal S7
The oem Boge shock appears to have max 100mm stroke. I measured it the other day. Presumably Ohlins made the bm141 to match that. Id like replacement shocks that match that original travel, but $920 delivered ..

Re: Rear shocks on a 1979 R100 RT

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 3:23 pm
by robert

Re: Rear shocks on a 1979 R100 RT

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 4:21 pm
by barryh
Major Softie wrote:
I think I know where this misunderstanding comes from. Phil Hawksley lists the specs for the R100 this way:

Spring Travel Front/Rear
200 / 125 mm (7.87 x 4.92 in)


If one did not know better, this could leave one thinking that the spring, or shock absorber assembly, travels 4.92", when it is clearly speaking of what we 'Mericans refer to as "rear wheel travel."

Silly English.

That's quite an insight !

Both Haynes and the BMW Repair Manual refer to "suspension travel" but I must admit I've read that wrong for years and assumed for the rear it was spring travel not wheel travel.

In my defence I found a BMW issued spec sheet and a riders handbook which quoted "spring travel" when they meant "suspension travel" Silly Germans (or translators).

barryh
from silly England :D