Page 7 of 7

Re: Nearly as good as an oil thread: diode boards

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 10:22 am
by bbelk
PITAPan wrote: I'm on the main machine again as of a couple hours...your 'roos time is up.
Start a new thread. I don't want to miss the roo match and this thread is overly confusing as it is.

Re: Nearly as good as an oil thread: diode boards

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:34 pm
by ME 109
PITAPan wrote:

And then by the time you clean it up enough to use that sealant you believe does something useful for you....

I'm on the main machine again as of a couple hours...your 'roos time is up.
Ever had your barrels off?

The barrel o ring alone does not stop oil weeping out and a sealant is required as well. Your inexperience may differ.
The use of sealant has been more than well covered over the years. Some might be lucky with just an o ring, some might enjoy an engine covered in oil.

"On the machine again"? :lol: your bike is most always in pieces. Even more than mine has ever been. :mrgreen:

Your kangaroo is good, although uncouth.
My roo appreciates fine beer and has style.

Re: Nearly as good as an oil thread: diode boards

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 4:06 pm
by Major Softie
ME 109 wrote: My roo appreciates fine beer and has style.
I will grant him "style."

Fine beer is never that pale...


Image

Re: Nearly as good as an oil thread: diode boards

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 4:12 pm
by ME 109
double post

Re: Nearly as good as an oil thread: diode boards

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 4:13 pm
by ME 109
Major Softie wrote: I will grant him "style."

Fine beer is never that pale...

One can't eat crayfish (lobster) with that dark ale tho'

Re: Nearly as good as an oil thread: diode boards

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 11:36 pm
by PITAPan
ME 109 wrote:
PITAPan wrote:

And then by the time you clean it up enough to use that sealant you believe does something useful for you....

I'm on the main machine again as of a couple hours...your 'roos time is up.
Ever had your barrels off?

The barrel o ring alone does not stop oil weeping out and a sealant is required as well. Your inexperience may differ.
The use of sealant has been more than well covered over the years. Some might be lucky with just an o ring, some might enjoy an engine covered in oil.

"On the machine again"? :lol: your bike is most always in pieces. Even more than mine has ever been. :mrgreen:

Your kangaroo is good, although uncouth.
My roo appreciates fine beer and has style.
My inexperience is indeed different. With fresh o-rings on a 100K (miles) block and barrels, I'm getting no weepage. Maybe it's the way I put it together? Doesn't mean it won't start someday.

Back in the day, so to speak, I used Hylomar on the /5 jugs. It worked poorly and they weeped eventually, always. It was what we had and what the book said to use. Better sealants are used these days. Despite your attempt at spin, you didn't get oil all over the engine. The weepage is capillary. There is no oil pressure at the joint, only splash. The oil loss cannot be measured, you go through more wiping your dipstick to check the level. The almost imperceptible oil film captured dirt making a 3/4" (metric conversion on you) dirty band around the jug, on the cylinder base and the block. We didn't have the 'net in those days, so there as much less horseshit floating around, but still, some owners were distressed by the dirty smudge. Just washing it off when washing the bike didn't satisfy.They had no problem with bugs on the headlight glass, but somehow thought they were entitled to a hermetically sealed engine. It's like if it weeped it wasn't up to snuff and they weren't the fine people they thought they were. Standing around a rally campfire the riders talked handling issues and tire wear. The Other Kind talked oil weeps.

If it washes the dirt off, or leaves a puddle larger than a dime, it's a leak. Anything else is BS.

I have some carbs from a bike that had an oil leak. The pushrod tubes in the head had holes in them. Someone had tried to patch these with bits of tin and epoxy. It didn't work and there was oil leaking down the tubes and getting all over the carbs. (and likely the riders boots). The carbs are a serious mess---but under that oil the metal is superb. The plating on the steel is impeccable. 29 yr old carbs and, minus the protective coating of oil, they look like new. Anyone need carbs? (or 800 jugs?)

I don't wash the oil off my bike too much..I even add some (cosmoline actually) to vulnerable bits.


My 'roo is the same as your 'rue, he just got an obviously needed bath...and seems to have shrunk. Better beer to 'roo ratio methinks...he don't drink much. Come to think of it, might wash him again. :mrgreen:

BTW, a lobster and crayfish (or crawdad) are different beasties around here. One or two lobsters is a meal. 15 crayfish is a meal.

Re: Nearly as good as an oil thread: diode boards

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 5:41 am
by Major Softie
ME 109 wrote: One can't eat crayfish (lobster) with that dark ale tho'
The hell I can't. ;)

Re: Nearly as good as an oil thread: diode boards

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 6:08 am
by ME 109
If one doesn't mind an oily mess, why would they take steps to prevent it.
Some peoples bikes are filthy shit heaps.

My bike is a tool which I like to keep in good order, so I can get out on the dirt and make it look like a filthy shit heap.
My bike leaks sufficiently to require a sealer. A lesser quality sealer doesn't cut it.
ThreeBond is a quality sealer and is what I now use.
My barrels have been off enough times for me to know what I'm talking about. In my situation.

I'll bet a "pro" would use a sealer so as not to have to do the job again when a customer complained.

Our crayfish is your rock lobster, if I'm not mistaken.
Our yabbies are like your crawdads, if I'm not mistaken.

Re: Nearly as good as an oil thread: diode boards

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 7:44 am
by chasbmw
ME 109 wrote:
PITAPan wrote:

And then by the time you clean it up enough to use that sealant you believe does something useful for you....

I'm on the main machine again as of a couple hours...your 'roos time is up.
Ever had your barrels off?

The barrel o ring alone does not stop oil weeping out and a sealant is required as well. Your inexperience may differ.
The use of sealant has been more than well covered over the years. Some might be lucky with just an o ring, some might enjoy an engine covered in oil.

"On the machine again"? :lol: your bike is most always in pieces. Even more than mine has ever been. :mrgreen:

Your kangaroo is good, although uncouth.
My roo appreciates fine beer and has style.

+1 on use of Drei/Yama/hondabond sealant. This should result in a perfectly dry joint with no misting. BMW revised their instructions to use this type of sealant. Why have a dirty joint when £6 results in a clean one.

Re: Nearly as good as an oil thread: diode boards

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 7:46 am
by Toga
PITAPan wrote:BTW, a lobster and crayfish (or crawdad) are different beasties around here. One or two lobsters is a meal. 15 crayfish is a meal.
Down under 1 crayfish makes a meal for 2 people...

Image


... and 1 lobster makes a meal of 15 people...

Image