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That's AI for you

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2025 5:35 pm
by Rob Frankham
I just Googled 'airhead driveshaft splines' in relation to a post on another forum. Googles 'AI overview' came back with the following:

An "Airhead drive shaft spline" refers to the splined connection on the drive shaft of a BMW Airhead motorcycle, which is a series of teeth on the shaft that mesh with corresponding teeth on the final drive, allowing for power transmission while accommodating slight angular changes during suspension travel; essentially, it's the mechanism that connects the engine power to the rear wheel on an Airhead bike.
Key points about Airhead drive shaft splines:

Wear and Tear:
These splines are known to wear over time, especially if the motorcycle is ridden hard or poorly maintained, potentially leading to slipping or clunking noises.

Replacement:
When worn, the entire final drive unit often needs to be replaced, including the splined ring gear, as repairing just the splines can be complex.
Spline Count:
Airhead models typically have a specific number of splines on the drive shaft, which is important when sourcing replacement parts.


What rubbish, thought I. so I googled it again and got this:

A driveshaft spline is a ridge or tooth on a driveshaft that matches a groove in a mating piece. The splines transfer torque between the two pieces.
Airhead driveshaft splines

Airhead motorcycles may require spline lubrication

If the splines are worn, they may need to be rebuilt
A specialist is needed to re-rivet the splined cups
It's possible to use bolts instead of rivets to repair the splined cups

Spline repair

A replacement spline shaft can be pressed into the ring gear
The new shaft is made from the same material as the ring gear
An experienced welder can weld the new shaft to the ring gear

When to rebuild splines

Some recommend rebuilding the splines when less than 1/3 of the original outer flat square edge remains
The rear wheel cup splines may need to be replaced

Spline repair considerations

It's important to ensure the assembly remains undistorted and concentric
Inferior rebuilds may not meet these requirements


Totally different but equally rubbish. The AI engine clearly can't tell the difference between the drive shaft splines and the wheel splines. If that's 'Artificial Intelligence', give 'Actual Ignorance' every day of the week...

Rob

Re: That's AI for you

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2025 5:44 pm
by barryh
Every time I search for anything on google the first return is AI generated and it's nearly always wrong in someway, regardless of the topic. If this is what AI is going to do for us then it's going to cause all sorts of problems if people believe it as gospel.

Re: That's AI for you

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2025 4:19 am
by SteveD
Haha...I've done a little AI searching looking for what it says, including how to tune Bing carburetors. Interesting exercise. Certainly not to be trusted.

I even tried Trump dressed as Taliban. :lol:

Re: That's AI for you

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2025 4:39 am
by barryh
Artificial Intelligence.

Well the Artificial bit is true enough but not the Intelligence. All that Google AI seems to do is search the web for texts on the chosen topic and string them together. If you search again on some of the text strings you'll find the original article which it copied. It's really just a search engine that combines more than one find into a vaguely readable but not necessarily intelligent form. It can be dangerously misleading.

Re: That's AI for you

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2025 4:32 pm
by jackonz
I got so fed up with Google AI I have managed to turn it off in Google Chrome, it's a worry when you are trying to find real true information.

Re: That's AI for you

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2025 7:38 pm
by Ficeseet
barryh wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2025 4:39 am Artificial Intelligence.

Well the Artificial bit is true enough but not the Intelligence. All that Google AI seems to do is search the web for texts on the chosen topic and string them together. If you search again on some of the text strings you'll find the original article which it copied. It's really just a search engine that combines more than one find into a vaguely readable but not necessarily intelligent form. It can be dangerously misleading.
I see where you're coming from, and I agree that AI can sometimes seem more like a glorified search engine than true "intelligence." In many cases, especially with early models, AI essentially pulls from a variety of sources and reassembles information, which can indeed lead to inaccuracies or a lack of true understanding. However, the development of AI is rapidly improving, and we are seeing models that do a better job at understanding context, making inferences, and even generating creative solutions. But you're right — it’s still important to verify information, especially when the output is based on pre-existing data.

Re: That's AI for you

Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2025 5:23 am
by Rob Frankham
The danger (not, I accept in this case where the content was clearly marked 'AI') is that so often the user isn't told that the content is from AI so a user who doesn't know the subject very well has no reference to dig deeper and accepts the statements as absolute truth. I firmly believe that all AI content, especially on social media, should be clearly marked as such.

The other issue is that of cyclic misinformation reinforcement. As more and more AI generated content is available, there is a real danger that other AIs will 'see' this and take it as real information and use it in their own output leading to a general degradation of the accuracy of content in general.

No against the development of AI in general or in prionciple but I really think that it should have been developed a lot further before it was foisted on the general public.

Rob