With the position of the drive shaft bolts, it's not possible to use a standard torque wrench. How do you get it done? These are a one time use bolt, so you have only one chance to tighten them.
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Torquing drive shaft bolts
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Torquing drive shaft bolts
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I use the oe 10-12mm 12point ring spanner from the toolkit. Torqued by hand to 'ouch'Zombie Master wrote:With the position of the drive shaft bolts, it's not possible to use a standard torque wrench. How do you get it done? These are a one time use bolt, so you have only one chance to tighten them.
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I've used my 81> bolts many times over. I may have bought two replacement set in 24 years. I know for sure I've bought one set.
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Yea but you're the Lord of the Bings. How do regular folks get it torqued properly? BTW did your bolts have washers?
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No washers, re-usable bolts. The washer type apparently are one use, but that wouldn't happen all the time, I bet.Zombie Master wrote:Yea but you're the Lord of the Bings. How do regular folks get it torqued properly? BTW did your bolts have washers?
Some folk use a short torque adapter arm. Someone will have a pic.....
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I also have reused the bolts many times over! Short bolts no washers and blue loctite. Use the wrench from the tool kit, hold down the brake lever and tighten as hard as you can.
1981 R100RT 169,000mi
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Re: Torquing drive shaft bolts
Hey ZM.
SnapOn make an adapter for such things.
https://store.snapon.com/Standard-mm-ch ... 31799.aspx
I used it with a little purple thread locker ( oil resistant). It effectively makes your torque wrench slightly longer so I decreased the torque applied slightly. Don't remember the math, maybe 5%
I used new bolts 'cause I'm not brave like Jeff.
SnapOn make an adapter for such things.
https://store.snapon.com/Standard-mm-ch ... 31799.aspx
I used it with a little purple thread locker ( oil resistant). It effectively makes your torque wrench slightly longer so I decreased the torque applied slightly. Don't remember the math, maybe 5%
I used new bolts 'cause I'm not brave like Jeff.
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Even Butler and Smith reused those bolts on the Super bike for racing. We very rarely replaced them with new. Never saw any issue either. Yep, tighten down to ouch with the typical short wrench. We didn't even use Loctite.PAS wrote:I also have reused the bolts many times over! Short bolts no washers and blue loctite. Use the wrench from the tool kit, hold down the brake lever and tighten as hard as you can.
1981 R100RT 169,000mi
We reused them going all the way back into the /2 era, except we would replace the early type with the shallow Allen bolt head.
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Re: Torquing drive shaft bolts
What I often do when I can't get the torque wrench in a spot:
I'll lock a nut on the vise and tighten a bolt with a torque wrench to the specified torque. I'll loosen it by hand to get a feel of how tight it is. Then I'll tighten it up to where I think it should be by hand, then use a beam torque wrench to loosen it, to see at what torque it releases at. Does this make sense, or am I just a dweeb?
I'll lock a nut on the vise and tighten a bolt with a torque wrench to the specified torque. I'll loosen it by hand to get a feel of how tight it is. Then I'll tighten it up to where I think it should be by hand, then use a beam torque wrench to loosen it, to see at what torque it releases at. Does this make sense, or am I just a dweeb?
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ZM, makes sense to me, but someone else might consider you a dweeb, not me of course.
You are going to be just fine with those bolts.
You are going to be just fine with those bolts.
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Re: Torquing drive shaft bolts
When you are tightening a bolt with a torque wrench, you are working against the sliding coefficient of friction until you hit your goal. Say at 25 Ft Lb. To loosen that same bolt you have to overcome the static coefficient of friction to start the bolt moving. It may take 28-30 ft lb to start the bolt moving. So, the break away torque is a good bit higher than the torque required to get to the target torque. With a beam type wrench its easy to test this.
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'74 Harley FXE, '72 Harley FLH w/HD sc
'69 BSA 441 Victor Special, '74 R90/6 Basket case
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